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In a fiery and headline-grabbing episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored, the complex dynamics between India and Pakistan took center stage as an all-star panel clashed in what was meant to be a debate on geopolitics but quickly devolved into a shouting match. The panel featured former Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar, renowned Indian journalist Barkha Dutt, Indian influencer Ranveer Allahbadia, and Pakistani comedian and podcaster Shehzad Ghias Shaikh.

Out of all the participants, it was Shehzad Ghias who stood out by delivering the most compelling, fact-based, and thought-provoking commentary that shifted the tone of the conversation.

Shehzad Ghias: Calm, Researched, and Impactful

Shehzad Ghias Shaikh, host of The Pakistan Experience podcast, entered the conversation with poise, clarity, and a depth of research that most of the other participants lacked. His responses were rooted in well-documented facts and global scholarly work, making his contributions not just credible but also hard to ignore.

Challenging the Bin Laden Narrative with Evidence

One of the most debated points during the episode was the allegation that Pakistan had knowingly harbored Osama bin Laden. This accusation, a recurring theme in many Western and Indian media circles, was forcefully challenged by Shehzad using hard evidence.

He referenced Nelly Lahoud’s critically acclaimed book, which is based on thousands of documents recovered from the Abbottabad compound where Osama bin Laden was killed in 2011. According to Lahoud, Bin Laden was actively hiding from Pakistani authorities—not with their support. In fact, the book includes direct communications where Bin Laden warns his followers to avoid contact with Pakistan’s intelligence services.

Piers Morgan’s Dismissal and Shehzad’s Sharp Response

Despite the legitimacy of his argument, host Piers Morgan dismissed Shehzad’s evidence as “utterly ludicrous,” questioning how a major global intelligence agency could be unaware of Bin Laden’s location.

What Piers failed to acknowledge, and what Shehzad tried to highlight, is that intelligence failures are a global phenomenon. The 9/11 attacks themselves were a result of failures by American intelligence. Holding Pakistan solely accountable for Bin Laden’s evasion oversimplifies a deeply complex global issue.

Ranveer Allahbadia’s Oversimplified Take Falls Flat

In contrast, Indian YouTuber Ranveer Allahbadia (BeerBiceps) attempted to dramatize the discussion by showcasing images of Osama bin Laden and Abdul Rauf, trying to label Pakistan as a sponsor of terrorism.

However, his performance lacked the depth and nuance required in such a discussion. His arguments were emotional and reductive, ignoring the broader geopolitical landscape. The inclusion of a lifestyle influencer on a high-level panel sparked criticism from viewers who questioned his credibility on such matters.

A Call for Facts Over Nationalist Narratives

In contrast to the emotional and accusatory tone adopted by some of the Indian panelists, Shehzad Ghias remained calm and focused on facts. He emphasized the need to look at state policies and historical context rather than weaponizing narratives for nationalist consumption.

Highlighting Kashmir

One of the most powerful moments came when Shehzad turned the conversation to Kashmir. He questioned how India could maintain a global image as a peaceful, democratic nation while simultaneously enforcing lockdowns, internet blackouts, and pellet gun injuries on its own citizens in the region.

Reports on Anti-Muslim Violence in India

Shehzad Ghias Shaikh’s critique of India’s internal policies—especially its treatment of Muslims—did not emerge in a vacuum. His concerns reflect what many international observers and human rights organizations have long highlighted.

A powerful report published by AJ+ captures the alarming rise in violence against India’s largest minority:

“Muslims make up 15% of India’s population, but India’s largest minority is facing rising violence. With lynchings happening just two hours away from Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s residence, a police shooting on a train targeting Muslim residents, and Muslim students being attacked in school, many Indian Muslims are wondering if they are safe in their homeland.”

The report further points out:

India projected a progressive image during its 2023 G20 summit, while the ground realities told a different story.
Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, a senior BJP leader, has openly called for India to be a Hindu nation.
Hindu nationalism and anti-Muslim sentiment are no longer fringe—they have entered mainstream politics and popular cinema, especially Bollywood.
Journalist Rana Ayyub, known for exposing human rights violations, is being targeted by BJP-affiliated groups for her reporting.

This aligns with Shehzad’s commentary on Piers Morgan Uncensored, where he questioned how a nation can claim democratic values while enforcing lockdowns in Kashmir and tolerating systematic violence against minorities.

BBC Confirms Political Shift

The BBC also published a report titled “India Elections 2024: What Muslims Think After a Decade of Modi Rule”:

“Ever since Narendra Modi’s BJP swept to power in 2014, India’s Muslims have had a turbulent time, often targeted in attacks or hate speech.”
– Reported by Soutik Biswas, filmed and edited by Bimal Thankachan

The BBC interviewed Indian Muslims ahead of the 2024 Lok Sabha elections, documenting their lived experiences under the BJP-led government. Many shared their anxieties, loss of security, and fading sense of belonging in a country they once called home without fear.

TRT World Also Published

According to a detailed TRT World report, hate speech and violence targeting Muslims in India have sharply increased since Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his hardline Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) came to power in 2014. While the BJP denies persecuting Muslims, the rise in anti-Muslim sentiment is undeniable and deeply troubling.

The Warning of Genocide: A Growing Danger

Dr. Gregory Stanton, founder of Genocide Watch, warns that genocide could be impending in India. He explains that genocide is a process involving multiple stages, not a single event. It begins with hate speech and escalates through steps such as discrimination, dehumanization, and organized violence.

The 10 Stages of Genocide: Are They Unfolding in India?

Classification — Creating divisions of “us vs. them” based on religion and ethnicity. BJP promotes Hindutva, an ideology defining India as a Hindu nation, fostering division between Hindus, Muslims, and other minorities.
Symbolization — Using slogans like “Jai Shri Ram” as weapons by mobs to identify and humiliate Muslims. Muslim street vendors and even children are beaten for perceived religious offenses.
Discrimination — Laws like the Citizenship Amendment Act (2019) exclude Muslims from protections, and Kashmir’s autonomy was revoked, leading to heavy restrictions and arbitrary detentions.
Dehumanization — Muslims are called “Bengali infiltrators,” “pests,” and labeled extremists or terrorists. Terms like “Love Jihad” and “Corona Jihad” fuel conspiracy theories that justify violence.
Organization — Right-wing Hindu groups, some armed and politically connected, carry out attacks and seek to disrupt Muslim religious practices.
Polarization — Propaganda and hate speech escalate tensions. Efforts to prevent Muslims from Friday prayers and attacks on mosques increase religious polarization.
Preparation — Euphemisms like “cauliflower farming” refer to past massacres, signaling open calls for mass violence.
Persecution — Muslims face property seizures, violence, and systematic exclusion from society.
Extermination — Though large-scale killings have not occurred since the 2002 Gujarat riots (where over 2,000 Muslims were killed), targeted mob violence continues.
Denial — Perpetrators deny violence and atrocities despite overwhelming evidence.

Historical and Ongoing Violence

2002 Gujarat Riots: Over 2,000 Muslims killed in planned attacks during Modi’s tenure as Chief Minister.
Recent Years: Lynchings, mob attacks, and police complicity in violence against Muslims continue nationwide.
2019: An independent investigation found that 53 people were killed in communal violence, with some police involvement.

These reports substantiate Shehzad’s points and show how the mainstreaming of Hindu nationalism is not just a talking point—it is a documented crisis. His calm, evidence-based approach stood in contrast to the emotional, accusatory rhetoric from some Indian panelists on the show.

Shehzad Was Right — The Data Proves It

Far from being a fringe opinion, Shehzad’s statement reflects global concern. His calm demeanor and fact-based delivery highlighted what leading global outlets and watchdogs are screaming: India’s Muslims are in danger.

Whether through legal marginalization, mob violence, or media-fueled hate, the reality is clear — and the world is watching.